Mark Zuckerberg’s emails, from lawsuits and leaks
43 emails Mark Zuckerberg wrote that came out through court cases, investigations and leaks to the press, 2008 to 2018. Each one is copied word for word from its source and links back to it.
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1 company
- From
- Mark Zuckerberg
- Sent
- Feb 27, 2012
- To
- David Ebersman
- Subject
- Not shown in source
One business questions I've been thinking about recently is how much we should be willing to pay to acquire mobile app companies like Instagram and Path that are building networks that are competitive with our own. These companies have the properties where they have millions of users (up to about 20m at the moment for Instagram), fast growth, a small team (10-25 employees) and no revenue. The businesses are nascent but the networks are established, the brands are already meaningful and if they grow to a large scale they could be very disruptive to us. These entrepreneurs don't want to sell (largely inspired our success), but at a high enough price -- like $500m or $1b -- they'd have to consider it. Given that we think our own valuation is fairly aggressive right now and that we're vulnerable in mobile, I'm curious if we should consider going after one or two of them. What do you think about this?
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Exhibit1102
- From
- Mark Zuckerberg
- Sent
- Feb 11, 2012
- To
- Facebook executives (internal group post)
- Subject
- I wonder if we should consider buying Instagram,...
I wonder if we should consider buying Instagram, even if it costs ~$500m.
Right now they seem to have two things that we don't: a really good camera and a photo-centric sharing network.
For the camera piece, their camera just takes photos that look much nicer than the native camera because of their filters, tilt-shift effects and even their new lux feature. I just took a photo this morning from the native camera and uploaded it to FB and it looked so low quality compared to the Instagram shots I see. Theoretically we could go build this technology, but I'm worried we're so far behind that we don't even understand how far behind we are and that this is going to be a huge amount of work. (For example, Schrep was telling me yesterday that some people on the photos team think the new Instagram camera isn't good, but it introduced this awesome new lux feature that essentially double their number of filters and seems to improve the quality of every photo I try to take with it.) Given this, I worry that it will take us too long to catch up, if we even will. And regardless, their brand is established as the awesome mainstream camera, so even if we catch up on features they're still the awesome iPhone camera app.
For the network piece, one concerning trend is that a huge number of people are using Instagram every day -- including everyone ranging from non-technical high school friends to even FB employees -- and they're only uploading some of their photos to FB. This creates a huge hole for us and one that I'm sure anything we're going to do on platform or with social dynamics will completely solve. Sometimes you don't want to bug all your FB friends with a lot of photos so you put them in the photo-posting place instead.
With Snap, our basic thesis is that what people need is a good way to post a bunch of photos on FB. We're doing some work on filters but not a ton, and the team is approaching this more as a nice feature and somewhat of a gimmick. Instagram, on the other hand, is approaching this problem from the perspective of how to help people take beautiful photos. I think it's quite possible that our initial thesis was wrong and that theirs is right -- that what people want is more to take the best photos than to put them on FB. If so, Snap might be a good first step but we'd be very behind in both functionality and brand on how one of the core use cases of Facebook will evolve in the mobile world, which is really scary and why we might want to consider paying a lot of money for this.
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Exhibit
- From
- Dan Rose
- Sent
- Jan 24, 2013
- To
- Mike Vernal, Justin Osofsky +4
- Subject
- Message summary [id.406139916141381]
Justin Osofsky:
>Twitter launched Vine today which lets you shoot multiple short video segments to make one single, 6-second video. As part of their NUX, you can find friends via FB. Unless anyone raises objections, we will shut down their friends API access today.
>
>We've prepared reactive PR, and I will let Jana know our decision.
Mark Zuckerberg:
>Yup, go for it.
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Exhibit12108
- From
- Mark Zuckerberg
- Sent
- Jan 10, 2013
- To
- Javier Olivan
- Subject
- Re: Competitive Mobile App Install Ads
I think we should block WeChat, Kakao and Line ads. Those companies are trying to build social networks and replace us. The revenue is immaterial to us compared to any risk.
And I agree we should use ads to promote our own products, but I'd still block companies that compete with our core from gaining any advantage from us.
I'd also keep blocking Google but otherwise wouldn't extend the block to anyone else.
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Exhibit1036
- From
- Mark Zuckerberg
- Sent
- Apr 6, 2013
- To
- Jan Koum
- Subject
- Rumor
I assume this isn't true, but can you confirm?
http://m.digitaltrends.com/social-media/google-acquiring-whatsapp/
If you are thinking of having WhatsApp join another company, we'd of course love to talk at this price range and are almost certainly a much better fit than Google!
Separately, we should hang out again sometime soon. I never got back to you about last weekend since I was busy getting ready for the Home announcement. But let me know if you're around in the next couple of weekends.
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2018
- Jul 19, 2018 to Alex Schultz Draft Earnings Script ~25% [...] intuitively [...] be in the range of every other social app (Twitter, Snapchat, Pinterest, LinkedIn, etc [sic]) and that's 200-400 million actives.
- Jul 18, 2018 to R. Whetstone Draft Earnings Script [o]ur analysis suggests without these integrations, Instagram's community would only be ~300-400 million people today instead of 1 billion.
- May 3, 2018 to Not stated in the slide “Confidential -- do *not* share beyond this group. 1…” Confidential -- do *not* share beyond this group. [...] 1. Cannibalization and Network Collapse [...] [T]here's a real chance we may be causing network collapse of the…
- Feb 7, 2018 to S. Li IG / FB ads vs engagement stats [a]re there other measures of effective ad load / tax we look at besides ads / stories and engagement displacement?
- Jan 30, 2018 to S. Li Position 2 badly mismanaging [...] absolutely no reason why IG ad load should be lower than FB at a time when . . . we're having engagement issues in FB. [...] [i]f we were…
- Jan 11, 2018 to Not stated (name redacted) Meaningful Interactions Briefing for NYT + Post [w]e built Facebook to help people stay connected and bring us closer together with the people that matter to us. That's why we've always put friends and family at the…
2013
- Oct 31, 2013 to Not stated in the slide “I'm disappointed and frustrated by this. [W]e should probably…” I'm disappointed and frustrated by this. [...] [W]e should probably prepare for it to leak that we offered $6b for [Snap] and all the negative that will come from that.
- Aug 8, 2013 to Javier Olivan Re: game on! We can definitely try to staff the team more to deliver more sooner, but we need to make sure we're doing the right things. My point about WhatsApp's direction is that…
- Aug 6, 2013 to Javier Olivan Re: game on! The most interesting thing to me in the article is that they're focused on photos features next. One big challenge WhatsApp has is that they need to offer something…
- Apr 6, 2013 to Jan Koum Rumor I assume this isn't true, but can you confirm? http://m.digitaltrends.com/social-media/google-acquiring-whatsapp/ If you are thinking of having WhatsApp join another…
- Mar 24, 2013 to Peter Deng Re: Winning at messaging Thanks for all sending such detailed analyses here. I've had a chance to read through all of them. For tomorrow's meeting, it would be great to distill this down to some…
- Mar 22, 2013 to Leads of the Facebook Messenger team Winning at messaging Being the best messaging service is the biggest opportunity and mitigation to the biggest threat we face today. The space keeps heating up, including Google about to get…
- Mar 4, 2013 to Chris Cox Litestand script One of the most important services we build is News Feed. It brings all of the things your friends are doing and sharing and puts them right in front of you.
- Feb 11, 2013 to Jim Breyer, Peter Thiel, Sheryl Sandberg Board Update Nothing too dramatic has changed since the last board meeting. Here are some updates: 1. Mission We rolled out the three year goal to provide free data access to…
- Jan 24, 2013 to Mike Vernal, Justin Osofsky, Mark Zuckerberg, Kevin Systrom, Douglas Purdy, Dan Rose Message summary [id.406139916141381] Justin Osofsky: >Twitter launched Vine today which lets you shoot multiple short video segments to make one single, 6-second video. As part of their NUX, you can find…
- Jan 10, 2013 to Javier Olivan Re: Competitive Mobile App Install Ads I think we should block WeChat, Kakao and Line ads. Those companies are trying to build social networks and replace us. The revenue is immaterial to us compared to any…
2012
- Nov 19, 2012 to Sam Lessin, Mike Vernal, Douglas Purdy, Javier Olivan, Alex Schultz, Ed Baker, Chris Cox, Mike Schroepfer, Dan Rose, Chris Daniels, Sheryl Sandberg, David Ebersman, Vladimir Fedorov, Cory Ondrejka, Greg Badros Platform Model Thoughts After thinking about platform business model for a long time, I wanted to send out a note explaining where I'm leaning on this. This isn't final and we'll have a chance…
- Oct 27, 2012 to Sam Lessin Re: notes on platform There's a big question on where we get the revenue from. Do we make it easy for devs to use our payments/ad network but not require them? Do we require them? Do we just…
- Oct 7, 2012 to Mike Vernal, Mark Zuckerberg, Chris Daniels, Dan Rose, Douglas Purdy Message summary [id.364074027012189] I've been thinking about platform business model a lot this weekend. One thing I've been thinking about a lot this is that we really should start a payments product for…
- Sep 30, 2012 to An Apple executive (name redacted) Urgent Issue When we said we didn't want a competitor like Google to use Facebook data to build a competitive graph, I interpreted this as including competitors like Line and Kakao,…
- Sep 27, 2012 to An Apple executive (name redacted) Urgent Issue by pulling all this info into contacts, we're helping our competitors compete against ourselves.
- Sep 25, 2012 to An Apple executive (name redacted) Urgent Issue [w]hen we discussed the Facebook / iOS integration, one of the biggest issues we discussed was around how developers would try to use our graph to grow competitive…
- Jul 21, 2012 to Not stated in the slide “Consumers don't come to Facebook to look at ads…” Consumers don't come to Facebook to look at ads; they come to stay connected with their friends and family.
- Apr 9, 2012 to Facebook employees CONFIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENT Confidential - DO NOT SHARE Hey everyone, I'm excited to share the news that last night we reached an agreement to acquire Instagram. Below is a post about the deal that…
- Apr 9, 2012 to Facebook employee (name redacted) “Yeah, I remember your internal post about how Instagram…” Yeah, I remember your internal post about how Instagram was our threat and not Google+. You were basically right. One thing about startups though is you can often…
- Apr 9, 2012 to Facebook colleague RE: CONFIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENT Thanks. One reason people underestimate the importance of watching Google is that we can likely always just buy any competitive startups, but it'll be a while before we…
- Mar 26, 2012 to Mike Vernal Re: I've been thinking about this some more and I'm starting to think we should just build something like this out for all top tier partners and launch them. Initially I…
- Mar 24, 2012 to Justin Osofsky, Sam Lessin “I thought of an idea for getting Instagram, Foursquare…” I thought of an idea for getting Instagram, Foursquare to fully link accounts with OG and I'm curious if it's possible and what you guys think of it. The basic idea is…
- Mar 22, 2012 to Not stated (name redacted) “Twitter is kind of different from Facebook since it's…” Twitter is kind of different from Facebook since it's primarily interest-based and all one medium.
- Mar 9, 2012 to Mike Schroepfer (not stated) Kevin [Systrom] from Instagram called me yesterday to talk about selling his [company] to us. He said he thinks he'll either raise money or sell at $500m.
- Feb 28, 2012 to David Ebersman “It's a combination of (1) and (3). The basic…” It's a combination of (1) and (3). The basic plan would be to buy these companies and leave their products running while over time incorporating the social dynamics…
- Feb 28, 2012 from David Ebersman “I tend to have a high bar for M&A…” I tend to have a high bar for M&A considerations. All the research I have seen is that most deals fail to create the value expected by the acquirer. My instinct is that…
- Feb 28, 2012 to David Ebersman “Above, I didn't mean to imply that we'd be…” Above, I didn't mean to imply that we'd be buying them to prevent them from competing with us in any way. Buying them would give us the people and time to incorporate…
- Feb 27, 2012 to David Ebersman “One business questions I've been thinking about recently is…” One business questions I've been thinking about recently is how much we should be willing to pay to acquire mobile app companies like Instagram and Path that are…
- Feb 11, 2012 to Facebook executives (internal group post) I wonder if we should consider buying Instagram,... I wonder if we should consider buying Instagram, even if it costs ~$500m. Right now they seem to have two things that we don't: a really good camera and a photo-centric…
2011
- Sep 11, 2011 to Justin Shaffer Re: photos team & snap Just to follow up on this again, I think it's a really big deal that we ship this photos app quickly. One theme in many of the products we're about to launch -- News…
- Sep 8, 2011 to Justin Shaffer Re: photos team & snap So when is the app going to ship? If you're asking whether it's important to ship soon, then the answer is definitely yes. In the time it has taken us to get out act…
- Feb 2011 to Colleagues at Facebook (not stated) In 4 months they're up to 2m users and 300k daily photo uploads. That's a lot. We need to track this closely.
2008
- Jun 22, 2008 to Chris Cox assembling the people who apparently didn't say the things in my memories the answer to your question of why it is better to buy than compete is network effects. This decision doesn't reflect a lack of confidence in our product or anything…
- 2008 to Not stated in the filing (not stated) I was looking forward to the extra time that would have given us to get our product in order.
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